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Longstrangetrip  
#101 Posted : Sunday, April 4, 2021 10:15:24 AM(UTC)
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Just wanted to touch on the pay retention. I know 5 people that moved from gs11 to gs7 or ir11 to gs7 RO's. You won't lose money, they can offer you up to 150% over gs7 step 10. It happened with me. Confirm your pay before your start date.
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#102 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 3:18:17 AM(UTC)
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Where would a new Revenue Officer be trained? Is there an academy or it OJT? Thanks for any information you can provide. Best of luck to everyone!
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#103 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 11:06:44 AM(UTC)
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Where would a new Revenue Officer be trained? Is there an academy or it OJT? Thanks for any information you can provide. Best of luck to everyone!


Well I can answer part of that with certainty.

You will have and on-the job instructor (OJI) for 1 year who will revaluation everything you do and help you learn how to work cases. Your OJI will be an experienced RO (FYI I am an OJI). They’ll go to the field with you help your through everything to make you a functional RO after the training.year is over.

All in person training for FY 2021 is cancelled, so if you state ibefore sept 30,2021 you will be trained using Skype and zoom with instructors.

When they resume in person training you will fly out of your POD several times to train at one of the 7 service centers

There is no logic RO which center you go to. I live in Florida and am 2 hours from Jacksonville. When I started I had to go to Kansas City for 2.5 months. But they’ve also changed the time away from home.

I have no idea when in person training is going to resume.
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#104 Posted : Monday, April 5, 2021 11:26:01 AM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


Wow! Things are moving after all!

Although each POD will move at their own pace, interview at different times.

Nonetheless, it's good news!

Thanks for letting us know!
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#105 Posted : Wednesday, April 7, 2021 4:25:27 PM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(
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#106 Posted : Wednesday, April 7, 2021 7:42:16 PM(UTC)
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(


Don't get discouraged. Whenever there are internal/external announcements for the same position, they always interview internals first.

They usually hire from each announcement, a mix of both for the next class...


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#107 Posted : Friday, April 9, 2021 11:08:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post
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Sacramento, Ca office started interviewing Internals last week for RO. Good luck all.


I applied for Sacramento and took the test a few weeks back, just waiting to hear something at this point.

I wonder how this impacts potential external applicants :(


Be patient.

They interview internals first. (We can debate the merits of that).

Nothing. And I mean nothing happens fast at the IRS.

If you want to work here get use to it
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Paul on 4/13/2021(UTC)
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#108 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2021 9:37:17 PM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.
*Do not drown in your own swimming pool*
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XFed77  
#109 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:25:53 AM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


Thanks for that info! It is very appreciated.

Is that a class that will include a few PODs together in California?

North, Central, South?

Thanks!

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#110 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 8:47:36 AM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


Thanks for that info! It is very appreciated.

Is that a class that will include a few PODs together in California?

North, Central, South?

Thanks!



All classes will include people from all over the country. They do that so you get to know people.

This is a mass hiring. And there will be different hire dates and class dates for each group of hires
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#111 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:02:37 AM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


Thanks for that info! It is very appreciated.

Is that a class that will include a few PODs together in California?

North, Central, South?

Thanks!



All classes will include people from all over the country. They do that so you get to know people.

This is a mass hiring. And there will be different hire dates and class dates for each group of hires


Duh...

I know this is a mass hiring. I was an RO before, maybe even before you, a little after RRA 98.

Just want to get real-time information from someone who has specific information about this present hiring process, like the
person I replied to. Not generalizations of the past. I know a lot about that. It helps somewhat, up to a certain point.

Thanks

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#112 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:01:20 PM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


It's my understanding internals in June, and externals in August. However that could change too!
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#113 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:03:22 PM(UTC)
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


Thanks for that info! It is very appreciated.

Is that a class that will include a few PODs together in California?

North, Central, South?

Thanks!



There's probably going to be a mixture in both hiring classes, but of course they may change it.
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#114 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:25:41 PM(UTC)
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All face to face training for FY21 is cancelled. There’s been no guidance on Fy22.

The last hire class got caught up in COVID fiasco and had part of their training in person and part virtual.

The other problem is going to be getting OJIs.

I was suppose to be an OJI this tune around. But I told them I’m not doing it virtually.

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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


It's my understanding internals in June, and externals in August. However that could change too!


I appreciate your info, Papoose79!

At least we know that within the next 2 to 4 months there's going to be movement/hiring.

The last action was on March 17th, the last day for the RO Assessment. Since HR has to take actions generally within 30 days of the previous one, I'm anticipating the next action to happen by this coming Monday, April 19th, (because April 17th is Saturday), or by May 2nd, because they can have an extension of 15 days. So, we might get some type of action by then, be it a Referral or an Interview.

Have you heard anything about classes being virtual or trainees get to travel?

Thanks!


I think all class training is from home and they really don't have a plan for the OJI phase.
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#116 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 8:15:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scottyd27 Go to Quoted Post
All face to face training for FY21 is cancelled. There’s been no guidance on Fy22.

The last hire class got caught up in COVID fiasco and had part of their training in person and part virtual.

The other problem is going to be getting OJIs.

I was suppose to be an OJI this tune around. But I told them I’m not doing it virtually.


I think they're still shooting for the face to face next year. I don't know much because I am not a RO "yet!" Hopefully one of them pick me this round!
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#117 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2021 8:21:43 PM(UTC)
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I was suppose to be an OJI this tune around. But I told them I’m not doing it virtually.

There are always people willing to OJI for the chance to put something else on their annual evals. I've officially trained several people in different things and I've never been able to take the official OJI class.

Personally, I prefer training virtually. My eyesight is bad and when I train in person I have to get right into a person's space if I want to be close enough to their monitor to be able to read what's on their computer screen. When I OJI virtually, I can put the screen as close to my face as I want and nobody cares.
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I was suppose to be an OJI this tune around. But I told them I’m not doing it virtually.

There are always people willing to OJI for the chance to put something else on their annual evals. I've officially trained several people in different things and I've never been able to take the official OJI class.

Personally, I prefer training virtually. My eyesight is bad and when I train in person I have to get right into a person's space if I want to be close enough to their monitor to be able to read what's on their computer screen. When I OJI virtually, I can put the screen as close to my face as I want and nobody cares.


I don’t mind virtual training except I don’t get per dime then.

But you can’t teach people to work in front of a taxpayer without actually having them in front of a taxpayer.

So I don’t want to train them this time to only teach half the job.

I worry about my annuals but that are always between 4.4 and 4.7 and exceeds.

Just my opinion but I don’t want to OJI this time. And my understanding is they want people to do the virtual training and keep a case load.
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I was suppose to be an OJI this tune around. But I told them I’m not doing it virtually.

There are always people willing to OJI for the chance to put something else on their annual evals. I've officially trained several people in different things and I've never been able to take the official OJI class.

Personally, I prefer training virtually. My eyesight is bad and when I train in person I have to get right into a person's space if I want to be close enough to their monitor to be able to read what's on their computer screen. When I OJI virtually, I can put the screen as close to my face as I want and nobody cares.


I don’t mind virtual training except I don’t get per dime then.

But you can’t teach people to work in front of a taxpayer without actually having them in front of a taxpayer.

So I don’t want to train them this time to only teach half the job.

I worry about my annuals but that are always between 4.4 and 4.7 and exceeds.

Just my opinion but I don’t want to OJI this time. And my understanding is they want people to do the virtual training and keep a case load.


I do understand you on this point. I actually agree because this was on of the questions I asked. I will assume the field training will come once we're half way able to travel etc.
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Update: Class for new RO is expected to start towards end of June. Ca site.

So still time to interview and hire. Good luck.


It's my understanding internals in June, and externals in August. However that could change too!


I appreciate your info, Papoose79!

At least we know that within the next 2 to 4 months there's going to be movement/hiring.

The last action was on March 17th, the last day for the RO Assessment. Since HR has to take actions generally within 30 days of the previous one, I'm anticipating the next action to happen by this coming Monday, April 19th, (because April 17th is Saturday), or by May 2nd, because they can have an extension of 15 days. So, we might get some type of action by then, be it a Referral or an Interview.

Have you heard anything about classes being virtual or trainees get to travel?

Thanks!


All face to face training for FY 2021 is cancelled, but that only goes through September 30th, 2021. Depending on when the new hires onboard, there will more than likely be more information on training for them then. Currently, the 3 waves for FY 2019 still have to complete unit 4 and the goal is to complete that in person. My guess is that will need to be completed in person before the new hires can travel for training judging by previous emails. Also, the FY 2020 hires have their unit 3 and unit 4 training still to do as far as I am aware of which they are looking to do in person as well. There is a lot of logistics involved but depending on travel restrictions and the amount of people vaccinated, travel for training will be a go eventually. Right now, with approval from the higher ups, very rare work in the field can happen but there are a lot of hoops to jump through right now for one RO to travel so for a whole group, it’s even harder to plan for that. Hope this helps!
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